So You Want to Buy a Pop-Up?
After many years of owning and learning about pop up campers, I thought it was
time to enlighten the less experienced about the ups and downs of pop-up camper
ownership. They are a great way to get into camping, easy to tow and store. I love the
360° view when all the curtains and windows are open. However, there are a lot of
things you should know before taking the plunge.
We bought our 1994 Dutchmen 1002XS brand new. I have kept it up over these
past 27 years with many repairs and modifications. If there was something needing to
be fixed, upgraded or modified my friends at Pop Up Explorer [.com] would help. There
have been many hurdles along the years, but that’s a different story.
My writing experience includes several articles for the now defunct Pop Up Times
magazine, along with authoring a highly rated medical blog for several years. My
knowledge of pop ups comes from reading thousands of hours of blogs and
manufacturer manuals, along with maintaining ours.
There are numerous camper related websites posted below.
#1- The skills you may need
The first thing I want to address is the skills you may need if you want to own a
pop-up camper, especially an older model. I’ve always said you need to be part
plumber, part electrician, part carpenter and part mechanic. There are very few
replacement parts available for older pop ups since most of the companies are no
longer in business. You’ll also find that most camper repair shops won’t work on pop
ups anymore, and at the rates they charge now you’d be better off buying a new
camper. This is discouraging news I know, but best to be aware before buying and
facing a huge repair with no available parts or anyone to work on it.
If you’re brave enough to tackle a rebuild project, I suggest having a place you’ll
be able to work on it. Be prepared with the ability to fabricate parts as needed. You’ll
need a variety of tools, working space and an occasional helper. You won’t be the first
person to do so, and the pop-up related sites below should provide some guidance.
#2- Before you even look
The first concern will be your Tow Vehicle (TV). Is it able to handle towing the
weight of the camper you’re looking at? Make sure you check manufacturers
specifications for tow ratings specifically for your vehicle, and the camper. My lawn
mower can pull my camper, but if you’re going 60 MPH stopping is more important.
Don’t forget to add the weight of passengers, gear and other stuff you take with to the
overall weight figure. Also the camper tires and axle have a max weight rating.
Exceeding those ratings can cause premature tire wear or blowouts.
#3- Checking Out a Used Pop Up
If you are looking at a used pop up the first thing to check for will be soft spots on
the roof. Those usually mean wood rot, the death of many pop ups from lack of
maintenance. Before the camper is opened check the roof and side seams. If you see
any holes, cracks or bad repair jobs walk away unless you are ready for a rebuild
project. A roof rebuild requires lots of tools, lumber, patience and money.
If the roof looks good it’s time to check out the lift system. The roof should raise
up fairly easy using the crank. Lift system repairs are not too costly; however, all pop
ups do not use the same lift system. The Goshen system is the most widely used type
and easiest to fix. Coleman and Jayco had their own system, which appear to be more
involved to fix. To identify a Goshen system, look under the camper. If you see a long
rectangular box in the center of the frame with the cables coming out both ends that is
most likely a Goshen system. A few pop ups were made with electric lift systems. From
past readings there seems to be numerous issues with that type of system. I can’t offer
any advice in that direction, but be aware. Also make sure the camper closes up easily
after checking everything out. Folding in the canvas requires some finesse.
Inside check the ceiling, floor and cabinets for water leaks. Wrinkles in the ceiling
means moisture has infiltrated somewhere. Don’t believe if the seller says it doesn’t leak
if you see that, water can seep through the tiniest hole. Soft spots on the floor are again
signs of wood rot. Cabinets that have peeling or bubbled surfaces mean there has been
moisture issues for some time. Replacing a floor involves a total tear down of the
camper, since the floor boards sit under the outer walls and cabinets. A very expensive
and time-consuming project that requires all those skills I mentioned in #1.
Depending on the camper model, check all the equipment included to ensure
they work as intended. You want to be shown how things like the stove, refrigerator,
shower, toilet, etc. work. Don’t miss the basic things like lights and water either. You
should also be shown the outside ports for water, drain(s) and electric. If the camper is
equipped with a battery make sure it’s in good shape.
You also want to check the tires. The best way to tell their age is by the date
code on the sidewall, if they are more then 4-5 years old they will need replaced. Note
the tread wear too, if either tire has uneven wear (bald on one edge) that could indicate
a bent axle or spring. Neglected tires may also mean neglected bearings.
So if all these things pass your test, and the layout of the camper suits your
needs and price range it looks like you’re buying a pop up!
The last thing before you hand over any money is make sure the seller has a
clear title. If there is a lien on the title make the seller take you to the creditor where you
can pay them to obtain the title. One piece of advice is always take cash with when
looking to buy. Offer a few hundred under the asking price making sure you note it’s “in
cash”. Many sellers know cash in hand is a sure thing.
3A- Buying a New Pop Up
If you can afford to buy new that doesn’t mean you won’t have problems. With
ours, although that was 27 years ago, a roof leak and lift system problems had us back
in service more times than I could count. The second year it went back to the factory for
a total rebuild. The roof leaked again the next year, the lift system still has issues. Yes
newer models have solved many of the issues of past models, but still best to be
forewarned and prepared.
New pop ups do have way more to offer as far as amenities. From showers to
microwaves to heated mattresses, options like those can allow you to have the comforts
of home in your camper. There are models with a slide out that offer more interior
space. And as previously mentioned some pop ups have electric lift systems.
Of course, all the additional amenities you add is just like buying a new car,
everything costs a bit more. This is where you have to consider options. Things like a
furnace or heated mattresses won’t be needed if you live in the south and only camp in
warm weather. And if you only plan to camp once or twice a season a more basic model
might suit your needs better.
After you buy your pop up, here’s more things to know:
#4- Towing
Towing is going to be your first hurdle. By now hopefully you’ve made sure your
TV can safely tow and stop your camper. In my years of towing there have been several
times an emergency stop was needed. Good brakes are important! Remember it takes
longer to stop with that weight behind your vehicle pushing you. Heavier pop ups are
equipped with brakes and will require a 7 pin connector and a brake controller. Keeping
a wider distance between you and the traffic ahead is best. Also maintain a slower
speed while towing, remember the tire ratings? Those indicate maximum speed ratings
to help avoid blowouts. You do want to get to camp safe and sound.
Backing up a camper will be the most important thing you’ll want to learn. To
practice that an empty parking lot is a good place to start. Even with years of towing
experience every spring my back up skill gets rusty. Do a Google or YouTube search for
tips and hints on backing up a camper.
#5- Leveling
One of the most important things about setting up your pop-up is making sure it’s
level. Not being level can affect the door not closing, the refrigerator not working, and
more. To level a pop-up you’ll need some wood blocks or a leveler set (Lynx Blocks) or
a BAL leveler and a carpenter’s level. Eyeballing it isn’t good enough, sorry.
The first thing is level the camper side to side by placing the wood blocks or
levelers under the tire on the low side. This can be a learning experience at first to
figure out how much height is needed to obtain level. That might mean backing the pop-
up on and off the blocks several times. With the BAL leveler once parked it’s simply set
the BAL under the tire on the low side and turn the screw until the pop-up is level.
Once it’s level side to side use the front tongue jack to level front to back by
lowering or raising it. When the pop-up is level deploy the stabilizers and snug them to
the ground. Use blocks of wood if needed to reach the ground. Never use too much
force on the stabilizers or use them to level as that can bend the frame.
Once I leveled our pop-up in a flat driveway using a carpenter’s level, I added the
stick on bubble levels to one side and the front. That way I no longer needed to carry
the carpenter’s level. At a glance it’s easy to see how level it is.
#6- Storing a Pop Up
I’ve always said the best place to store a pop up is in your own garage. If you’re
not lucky enough to have a garage, storage shed or barn a good option is a portable car
garage. One suggestion is do not cover it with a tarp. Tarps hold moisture underneath
and will allow water to puddle which will find ways into your roof. Even the breathable
covers made for campers tend to retain some moisture under them. Another thing with
covers and tarps is they tend to rip and shred in windy conditions.
Any time you store your pop up for more than a few weeks the big issue is
critters getting in. Mice can do a lot of damage in a short time. The most basic rule is
leave no food inside that may attract rodents. Cleaning is another good step to prevent
critter damage. Every fingerprint can leave a trace of food smell, which is the thing that
attracts them. We use the Dollar Store lemon scented disinfectant wipes to clean
everywhere after every camp. Even with mice running around our garage day & night
when we first moved to our new house, the camper had been well wiped down. It sat all
winter, and come spring there were no signs of mouse intrusion.
Another tip on keeping your pop up free of rodents is sealing any holes where
wires or drains go through the floor. To find holes wait until dark, turn off the inside lights
and place a light under the camper. Look inside cabinets and under seats, any place
you see light shining through is a place a mouse could enter. I used silicone to seal up
these possible intrusion points in our pop up.
There are numerous myths to deter mice. Irish Spring soap, dryer sheets and
peppermint oil on cotton balls to name a few. I have seen pictures where the mice eat
the soap and make beds out of dryer sheets. Oils seem to deter them until the scent
fades, which isn’t much longer than soap or dryer sheets. Mothballs are another mouse
deterrent that seemed to have worked for me in the past. Our pop-up was stored for six
years under a carport unused and unopened due to the roof leak. I kept a box of
mothballs in a cabinet behind the camper, no mice.
There is a guy on YouTube, Shawn Woods, who does mouse videos. He shows
the reactions mice have to different items considered deterrents. Look him up.
#7- Stuff You’ll Need
This list might not be for everything and everyone, but I tried to list the most basic
items needed to be prepared for camping in your pop up.
Necessary Items:
Water hose (drinking safe) and water pressure regulator
Wood blocks, leveler blocks or a BAL leveler
Tire Chocks
30 AMP to 15 AMP conversion plug (possibly)
Container to hold gray water and a short hose or pipe connector for drain
Tire iron to fit your lug nuts
A jack of some kind (I use a small hydraulic type)
Suggested items:
Basic set of tools (hammer, screwdrivers, pliers, etc.)
Extension cord(s) 30 AMP and utility grade
String lights or flashlights
Bug spray
Fresh water additive
Rags
Waterless hand cleaner
For hauling the other necessities you need to take with, here’s a few things we
do to make it easier;
Food- we use square plastic file containers to pack all the food in. We put
cardboard on the bottom of one so small items don’t fall through.
Clothes- we use duffel bags for all clean clothes. Dirty clothes go into a lined
laundry bag. Damp/wet clothes are hung on the back bunk supports to dry.
Tools- I use a 5-gallon bucket to hold tools and parts. We do have a front
storage bin and that holds most of the pop-up poles, hoses, cords, etc.
#8- Camping
Before your first camping trip I suggest a driveway camp out. That way you can
learn how things set up and figure out any issues before you’re stuck out at a
campground. The most basic rule of thumb is never force anything.
After a few times camping you’ll get the hang of the set up and tear down
procedure. A checklist can help so you don’t forget to un-do the roof latches before
cranking up the roof or drive away with the electric cord still plugged in! There are many
such lists on the Pop Up Explorer forum.
Most of all, enjoy your time but respect your neighbors.
#9- If you need help
I’ve listed Pop Up Explorer and Pop Up Portal below. Both are good groups and
as much as Explorer has always been my go to, there aren’t as many active folks on
there anymore. If you use Facebook there are several pop-up related groups there, and
Pop Up Camper Owners seems to be the most active.
A few hints about posting for help on any social media:
The first thing is tell what make, model and year the camper is because
there are a lot of differences between all pop ups.
Pictures can be the best way to get help if you don’t know the names of
certain parts.
When someone helps you and the issue is fixed, come back and post if
their advice was the fix. That will help folks in the future.
Links
www.Popupexplorer.com
www.Popupportal.com
www.Goshenstamping.com
Foam Factory- www.foambymail.com
www.Easternmarine.com
www.Etrailer.com
www.Popupparts.com
www.Hannarv.com
www.Bearcreekcanvas.com
www.Canvasreplacements.com
www.Popupgizmos.com
www.customcylindersintinc.com/article/understanding-camping-trailers-roof-lift-systems
www.Campingpopupstyle.com (my site)
For your tow vehicle- https://www.your-rv-lifestyle.com/car-parts-list/
Also eBay and Amazon are good places to find generic parts.
Keeping your Pop-up
Keeping your pop-up in good shape to last involves some work every year. As I
mentioned roof leaks are the killer of many pop-ups, mostly from lack of maintenance.
Lift systems are the next big issue with a pop-up. If you can’t raise the roof there is no
camping. Let me explain each a bit more in depth;
Roofs- the edge caulking is where a lot of roofs leak. Caulk dries out after
several years and needs to be scraped off and replaced. You should check all the
caulking every year to check for cracks or loose caulk. Removing the old caulk is
important to insure a good seal. When replacing the caulk use a polyurethane caulk,
silicone does not seal on these pop-up roofs. After removing the old caulk clean the
area with alcohol or acetone before applying the new caulk. I said our roof leaked the
year after the factory rebuilt it. My friends at Pop Up Explorer suggested Eternabond
Tape. I sealed the roof edges in 2007 with Eternabond and it is still leak free! The best
part is no scraping caulk off every couple years just to replace it. Also avoid using a
power washer on your pop-up as the pressure can blow the caulk out of the seams.
The Coleman ABS roof is a whole different ball game. This roof is a one piece
shell of ABS plastic over a foam core. These roofs tend to crack as the ABS ages due to
exposure to the elements. Once the first crack shows up the ABS will begin to
delaminate and eventually peel off the foam core. Once the foam core is saturated with
water there is usually no saving the roof. Some have temporarily fixed their ABS roof by
coating it with a rubber paint or having it Rhino-Lined, however delamination will
continue if moisture is trapped underneath any coating. Some recommend drilling a
small hole at the ends of any crack and sealing with MEK. MEK is a mixture of Legos
melted with acetone to form a goopy sealant. Others have removed all the ABS plastic
then coated over the foam. The jury is still undecided as to which solution lasts the
longest and works the best.
The Coleman aluminum roof that replaced the ABS roof wasn’t much better. The
design of the aluminum with small dimples in it held droplets of water that eventually led
to pinhole leaks. This failure often went un-noticed until the ceiling inside showed issues
of moisture intrusion. By then the foam core is usually saturated.
Around the A/C is another place a roof might leak. Many pop-ups have internal
roof supports added when the A/C is installed. If there are no supports the roof tends to
sag under the weight of the A/C unit. Once you see water pooling on the roof the
damage has probably been done. If you have a simple leak around the A/C and no
water pooling on the roof, try tightening the four corner bolts. You’ll find those inside
under the cover. In 27 years I’ve had to tighten the A/C bolts once. The next resort is to
replace the A/C gasket. That involves removal of the A/C unit, not an easy job.
Lift Systems- The lift system needs yearly maintenance to avoid problems. The
Goshen system is the most common lift system used, and easiest to work on. For that
system it’s suggested to add grease to the main box once a year. There are two grease
zerks on the box, one in the front and one on the rear. Both zerks are kind of hard to
find but using a grease gun with a flexible nozzle makes adding the grease easier. The
Goshen system uses one long cable and push springs to lift the roof.
Jayco, Fleetwood and Coleman lift systems are all different. These systems use
separate cables on each corner wrapped around a pulley. The location of pulleys in
some models makes it near impossible to lube them. In some pop-ups the cables run
behind the cabinets. I’ve seen one system where the lift post is anchored to the floor,
and the floor tends to rot out under it. As much as a cable repair is not a costly fix, if you
have to take your camper half apart to do that repair the costs can add up.
The best preview of all lift systems is on this site-
www.customcylindersintinc.com/article/understanding-camping-trailers-roof-lift-systems
On all pop-ups the four corner lift posts should be lubed once a year. That
requires a dry lubricant as oils will collect dust that can jam up the posts. I use a dry
white silicone lube applied from a spray can. I place a large piece of cardboard behind
the post to prevent overspray getting on the Sunbrella, spray the post and wipe the
excess off with a rag.
I can’t give detailed information about all lift systems since there are so many
different types. I have replaced the cable on our Dutchmen with the Goshen system. It
wasn’t too hard of a job, just greasy and about three hours of time. The other repair
involved replacing the front spring tubes and spring after busting them using a drill to
raise the roof. That was a tough repair which took a couple of days to figure out.
Canvas vs Sunbrella- Most of the newer pop-ups from the early 90’s and up
used Sunbrella and not canvas for the tenting. It’s easy to tell the difference by feeling
the material, canvas will feel rough and textured where Sunbrella will feel pretty smooth
and plastic like. Canvas needs to be waterproofed every few years. Sunbrella needs
nothing except cleaning with mild soap. However long term exposure may require
recoating Sunbrella with a fabric protectant.
Seams on the bunk ends may need some maintenance as the threads shrink and
dry out. That can cause moisture to show up along the seams after a rain. Any product
used to seal tent seams should work there.
The bunk end window flaps are usually canvas even if the remaining tenting is
Sunbrella. If water is seeping through treat those with a waterproofing product.
Tires and Bearings- Camper tires vary in size and design. The best practice is
replacing the tires after 4-5 years regardless of how they look or the miles driven. Air
pressure should be maintained at the recommended levels, if it says 80psi then yes
that’s where they should be filled to. I buy new tires every 4 years, sooner if there is a
long trip coming up.
Bearings are recommended to be greased every couple of years. I’m bad but I
tend to wait until changing tires since access to the bearings requires removing them
anyway. Some folks like the bearing buddies that allow you to add grease without
removing the whole tire and wheel. My issue with those is it’s too easy to pump too
much grease in there and blow out the rear seal.
Stabilizers- The 4 corner stabilizers are used to keep the pop-up from bouncing
around while you’re inside. Cleaning and the occasional shot of any dry lube should
keep them working well. Remember they are just to stabilize the camper not level it.
Excessive force on the stabilizers can cause the frame to bend, which can lead to all
sorts of problems.
Tongue Hitch & Jack- These items are just as important as any other piece of
your pop-up. Of course the hitch is how the camper is connected to the tow vehicle. I
like to place a hitch pin through the lock hole when towing as a precaution. The jack is
how you raise and lower the front end. Both of these parts need occasional lube to keep
working frustration free. The safety chains should not be so long they touch the ground,
and my preference is to cross the chains when hooking to the vehicle. If your TV is
equipped with a back-up camera one suggestion is a spot of bright paint on the camper
hitch so it’s easier to see when backing up.
Your Tow Vehicle If you need assistance with what things you might need to
keep your Tow Vehicle running in tip top shape, or what routine maintenance is needed,
check out this article - https://www.your-rv-lifestyle.com/car-parts-list/
I hope this information has helped you in your choice of a pop-up camper, or
given you some insight as to the in’s and out’s of owning a pop-up. We have enjoyed
our Dutchmen pop-up over the years, even with the hassles experienced. If you check
out our website at www.campingpopupstyle.com the whole story is there, along with
many of the repairs and modifications done along the way.